Scam Tip Report #23828 - Car sales
Scam Reporter | Scam Tips Received
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| No Name Brisbane, Queensland, Australia 2015-08-11 07:22:47 Social Network Scam Gumtree | +4 Car sales
thanks for getting back to me,i'm okay with the price as its within my budget likewise the condition as described on the advert,i work as a marine engineer and currently on a repair of a big construction work offshore which will take a pretty long time.We do not have access to phone at the moment due to the current status of the job. Doing the supervising and checking of each section of the construction. and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb acct name and number if you have no PayPal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. |
Follow Ups/Extra Information. Most recent is listed first.
| Anonymous () Added the following extra information on :2018-04-20 09:11:03 |
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Almost immediately after posting a Gumtree advertisement to sell a motorcycle I received an SMS from "Sean" seeking contact via e-mail. I set up a fake name, e-mail address, son's name and bank account details and started to scam bait our friend.
I got him to send me a copy of his driver's licence on which his name had been badly photo shopped. It is a real (Australian) Victorian licence (including a photo) - but I would assume is stolen:
Number 057513324
Expiry 05-09-?2020
DOB 02091982
Address: 12 Heathwren Cl, Frankston Victoria 3199
Licence type: Car
He sent me two fake PayPal invoices.
Scam EmailTo:seancarterbill@gmail.com
14 Apr at 7:04 pm
Thanks for your SMS.
Yes, the bike is still available.
I don't think that I'd go lower tghan $2000.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
14 Apr at 7:31 pm
Thanks for getting back,i'm pleased with the price and the condition as described on the advert,I work on a remote mine site, Energy Resources of Australia Ltd (ERA) Darwin NT.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility,Does it have any history I should be aware of and why are you selling?
Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your BSB,Acct name & Number so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your PayPal payment details as i can also pay into your Paypal acct.
I've contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct.
Await your reply
To:sean carter
14 Apr at 7:43 pm
Hi Sean,
Thats great.
I'm selling because my son has grown out of the bike. It' s in top condition.
How does the PayPal thing work? I'm not very good when it comes to technology!
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
14 Apr at 8:47 pm
Thats alright mate,am okay with the condition of the car as stated...i can also make a bank transfer to your account
To:sean carter
14 Apr at 8:50 pm
I'm not sure how the bank transfer thing works.
My son usually looks after those sorts of thing for me.
Regards,
robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
14 Apr at 9:26 pm
Once i make the bank transfer your account will be credited in less than a day so we can proceed with the sale
To:sean carter
14 Apr at 9:30 pm
Sounds good.
I need to know your address details according to my son or some sort of ID then he can accept transfer into his bank account.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
14 Apr at 9:57 pm
Ok mate,heres my drivers id
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 9:00 am
Thanks Sean
My son says his bank accoun t details is:
Luke Davidson BSB 06 6129 account 2100 7291
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 9:50 am
Ok mate,i will let you know when the payment has been made and also
contact my pick up agent.Please tell others it's sold and remove the
advert
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 12:26 pm
We'll check if payment has come through.
regards,
rob
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 12:29 pm
CAn't see payment yet.
may be tomorrow.
rob
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 12:31 pm
No payment yet.
may be tomorrow.
rob
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 12:33 pm
CAn't see payment yet.
may be tomorrow.
rob
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 1:07 pm
I was just about to pay when my pick up agent says i will need to pay for the pick up before they can schedule a pick up time, they charged me $950 for pick up and delivery and payments for pick up made through them is made to their corporate international headquarters in the China and the payments is made through western union money transfer, i will add the $950 to the money i will send as soon as i have made the payments,i will need you to help me send the money to my pick up agent HQ in the China through western union money transfer, this can be done online on their site www.westernunion.com.au ,i would have done it myself but as i am at the mine and didnt bring my credit card aboard.I will appreciate your help here and thanks for your understanding
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 1:20 pm
That's a bugger.
When I go to the western union site it wants to know wether you want the $950 as cash at agent location or bank account. I don't know which one.
Regards,
Rob
payment@service.com .
To:
robert.davidson15@yahoo.com
15 Apr at 2:49 pm
Hello Luke Davidson,
We hereby want to assure you once again that the total sum of $3,050 AUD will be credited into your Commonwealth Bank of Australia account as soon as you provide us with the complete details of the western union money transfer used to send the additional fund of$950.00AUD meant for the item pick up to the buyer's pick up agent. We also want you to know that your money has already been deducted from the buyer's account and it cannot be returned back to him which means that it is secure with us but has been put on hold and will not be credited into your Commonwealth Bank of Australia account until we receive the necessary details from you. The western union money transfer information's needed are the MTCN and the sender's name and address used to send the money. This information's will be given to you by western union after the money transfer has been done. The western union transfer can be done online.
We are sorry for any inconveniences this might have caused and we want you to know that the total sum of $3,050.00AUD is ready and available to be credited into your Commonwealth Bank of Australia account as soon as the necessary step is taken by you.
Thank you for using PayPal.
PayPal Team.
PayPal Email ID PP307
Copyright© 1999-2016 PayPal. All rights reserved. PayPal (AUS) Limited is authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority in the United State of America as an electronic money institution. PayPal FSA Register Number: 226056
payment@service.com .
To:robert.davidson15@yahoo.com
Hello Luke Davidson,
This email confirms that you have received an Instant payment of $3,050.00 AUD from Sean Carterbill via PayPal Merchandise Wire transfer Payment Service.
Reversals : This method of payment can not be reversed.
Status : Pending - Transport Agent Awaiting Payment.
View the details of this pending transaction below
Funds Remittance Details:
Name of Bank: Commonwealth Bank of Australia
BSB Number
Account Number:
Name of Account Holder:
066-129
Bank Code: 06 | State code: 6 | Branch code: 129
21007291
Luke Davidson
Institution
Commonwealth Bank of Australia
Branch Name
Subiaco
Street Address
424-436 Hay Street
Suburb
Subiaco
State
WA
Postcode
6008
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This payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been " APPROVED" but will not be credited into your bank account until the MTCN Number is sent to us for verification which is due to important random security measure that we do carry out on payments to ensure safety. As mentioned in the receipt of Payment and as per our new PayPal Payment policy, we have fully debited the total amount (above) from the buyer's account which includes the Transport/Delivery Charges.
In order to complete this transaction and get the funds approved in your account. We advice you go to nearest Western Union Transfer location and send the pick up fee of $950.00 AUD to the buyer's Transport Agent and send us the Western Union Transaction details by replying directly to this email and you will a "CONFIRMATION E-mail" from PayPal® Service informing you that your account has been credited with $3,050.00 AUD as soon as the above information's has been received and Verified by us.
Please, find below the name and address of the Transport Agent where the $950.00 AUD should be sent via Western Union
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 2:50 pm
I have just completed the payment and i expected Paypal to have notified you to this effect.check your mail folders(inbox,spam and junk mail) i sent
$3,050 in all.i added $1,050 but $950 will be sent to my agent in China through western union,you can as well make the transfer online via westernunion.com.au ,the extra $100 is to cover the western union fee. Paypal said they will not release the fund until you email them the western union details for verification,and also to enable my pick up agent to come for pick up and inspection.Here is the agent's details where the money will be sent.
Agent first name: JINPING
Surname: LIU
Address: Rainbow Plaza
14 Dongsuan Huan Beilu
Chao Yang District
100026 BEIJING
CHINA.
Please get the necessary details sent to Paypal (Money Transfer Control Number)MTCN and senders name and address used to send the $950 so that they can release the whole fund into your account.Please get back to me once done.
Steps to make the Western Union Transfer Online
1. Go to www.westernunion.com.au
2. Register an account with Western Union if you don't have one
3. Click on Send money
4. You will pick cash for how your agent will receive the money
5, You will then fill in the senders details and agents name and address for the receiver
6. pick the poli option which is pay through your account
7. Send money to my agent name and address
8. You will be giving a confirmation containing the MTCN number
I will need the details of the transfer once you have sent fund so i
can forward to pay .pal, . . .
1.The MTCN number number on the Western Union receipt
2.Sender's name and address used in sending the money
3.Actual amount sent.
4.Question and answer.
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 3:07 pm
hello mate,have you seen the payment notification
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 3:10 pm
Yes: I got 2 emails from paypal.
The payment stuff is a bit complicated, ill see if my son can help me.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 3:18 pm
thats alright, i was made to understand that you need to help make the transfer from your end before the pending fund can be released to your account so just log into the western union site and follow the steps in my previous mail to make the transfer
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 3:42 pm
hello,have you been able to get the transfer process
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 3:55 pm
My son sorted out the steps but next problem is that Western Union says that they need additional ID for you. I said i got a copy o your drivers licence but they said that for an international transaction they have to be careful about fraud. I said I've got the paypal e-mail confirmation but they said that wasn't enough - need passport or bank account scan.
What do we do now?
Regards,
Robert
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 3:56 pm
This is too much hassle i think.
Why don't you just send me a check or something.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 4:06 pm
what they need is just the address and the agent name
seancarterbill@gmail.com>
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 4:07 pm
you can provide them with your details as thats the only thing needed for the transaction to go through
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 4:18 pm
They said that there was too much fraud these days. I said i have paypals emails and that i have your drivers licence. They said they need more ID for an international transfer.
I am worried because PayPal said they would take legal action against me in one of their e-mails unless i pay. But i can't pay because Western union won't let me. I am a bit stuck.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 4:47 pm
cant you provide them with your passport as i dont have my passport here with me...kindly help out on this.thanks
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 5:00 pm
Sate, they want your id not mine! do you have something else that they will accept?
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 5:20 pm
i guess you will have to call them to cancel the transfer as i dont have my passport here with me and you will have to go to the post office in the morning to make the transfer on the same agent name and address...you might be asked the purpose of transfer before they send the money just tell them its family emergency...so they can post the money right away..am so sorry for the inconvenience.let me know when you get the mail.thanks
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 5:26 pm
ok but PayPal says in their email that they aregoing to take legal action against me. I don't need that because I'm on parole and if i screw up then my parole officer will find out and they will put me back in jail.
Regards,
Robert
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 5:30 pm
Why don't i just tell paypal that we are waiting on your passport and then they will get paid. We just need to wait for you to get back to Victoria and send a copy of your passport and it will be sweet.
What roster are you on?
regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 5:32 pm
thats alright,you just have to make the transfer and all will be fine and then we can proceed with the sale of the bike.thanks
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 5:40 pm
you need not to worry about paypal as they will only do that if you dont get the money sent...so just get the money sent at the post in the morning and follow what i have said then we will be good on the sale..thanks
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 5:41 pm
Man, this is doing my head in.
So I've got to go to the post office right? I tell them that there is a family emergency and I've got a sick relative in china who needs some expensive medical drugs. What if they ask me whats wrong with the relative? Do you know any disese that i could say? Like aids or something. Is that a good enough disese?
We need to think of a disese that needs a lot of money to fix.
I got hepatitis B from injecting but that is a cheap disese.
Regards,
Robert
seancarterbill@gmail.com>
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 5:48 pm
yes its good enough,but just tell them its a terminal disease....thanks
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 5:52 pm
terminal disease like cancer ..thats much better.thanks
To:sean carter
15 Apr at 5:58 pm
Sweet.
Ill tell you after I've gone to the post office.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
15 Apr at 6:04 pm
alright mate,thanks
arterbill@gmail.com>
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 5:55 am
good morning,just want to know when you are going to the post office
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 8:34 am
Hello mate
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 10:45 am
Hello mate
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 11:39 am
Sorry Sean, been a bit busy this morning.
ill try to get to the post office this afternoon.
rob
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 1:20 pm
Hello mate,have you been able to get to the post office
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 1:59 pm
hello mate
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 2:49 pm
hello mate,whats going on
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 4:22 pm
Hello
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 5:17 pm
Ok went to the post office. They didn't ask me anything about the chinese relative which is a bit of a shame because i was ready with a great story about how he was dying of cancer and it was terminal. I even printed a picture of an asian so i could say he was the one who was sick.
They wanted my id because it was more than $20.
So its all good.
Can you check with the agent?
Wehn do I get your payment? Then you can get the bike.
Regards,
Robert
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 5:30 pm
Ok so were you able to make the transfer ...do send me the receipt or mtcn on the receipt so i can forward to paypal and they will then process the release of the funds to your account
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 5:41 pm
I made the transfer at the post office.
they didn't ask me about the sick relative
Regards,
rob
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 5:49 pm
Ok ..you can send me the mtcn on the receipt
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 5:53 pm
what is the mctn?
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 6:04 pm
Its on the receipt you got from the post office or u can snap the receipt to me
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 6:29 pm
I'll try to find it.
How is Darwin?
rob
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 6:38 pm
Snap me the receipt of the transfer
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 6:42 pm
What do you mean snap me? Take a photo?
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 6:48 pm
Take a photo of the receipt and send it to me
To:sean carter
16 Apr at 7:01 pm
mate, to complicated for me. i can only do email and internet and I can print out stuff. Like i printed out the photo of the sick chinese relative but the post office didn't even ask to see it.
They reckon that the meth did something to my brain but i don't think thats true because if that was true how did i think of printing out a photo? Answer that.
I was in Darwin in the 80s but that is another story.
Good talking to you.
Rob
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
16 Apr at 11:19 pm
Ok check the receipt you were given you will see the side they wrote MTCN no thats what is needed for verification
sean carter
To:Robert Davidson
17 Apr at 5:45 am
hello mate
To:sean carter
17 Apr at 9:01 am
can't find any receipt. I think they gave me one. Anyway, it doesn't matter because i know i paid it.
When do i get the payment for the bike?
Rob
To:sean carter
17 Apr at 1:07 pm
Hey sean i still haven't received any payment from pay pal.
Regards,
rob
To:sean carter
17 Apr at 3:55 pm
Hey Sean,
I had a call from a mate and i might be coming to Melbourne on a trip next week. How is that for luck? don't ask me why I'm coming to melbourne lets just say that I have some business there.
i was thinking that while i am in melbourne i could catch up with you and you could just pay me for the bike then you don't have to worry about pay pal.
Ive got you're address from your drivers licence so i could drive down to your place.
Can you get pay pal off my back? I'm worried they will take it to the cops. its not my problem anyway because i have paid the agent an thats what I'm going to say and thats the truth anyway.
I want to get this sorted once and for all and for good.
Regards,
Rob
To:sean carter
18 Apr at 7:33 am
you around?
To:sean carter
18 Apr at 4:48 pm
Hey sean, where are you mate?
my money must have come through because i haven't heard anything from pay pal so thats good.
ar you back in melbourne yet from darwin?
Nobody has arrived to pick up the bike but even if they did arrive id have to tell them that pay pal still hasn't paid me so i can't give them the bike until pay pal had paid me sorry about that.
Regards,
Rob
To:sean carter
20 Apr at 9:05 am
Sean?
To:sean carter
20 Apr at 3:28 pm
I've got to say that I'm really pissed with you Sean.
Why won't you reply to my emails?
we were having a nice conversation then you stopped.
are you on meth sean? I stopped all meaningful social interaction when i was on meth too. You should stop taking meth sean.
Regards,
Robert
| Anonymous () Added the following extra information on :2018-02-20 08:57:15 |
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THANKS FOR THIS SITE!! When it's to good to be true, it usually is!
Thanks for getting back,i'm pleased with the price and the condition as described on the advert,I work on a remote mine site, Energy Resources of Australia Ltd (ERA) Darwin NT.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility,Does it have any history I should be aware of and why are you selling?
Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your BSB,Acct name & Number so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your PayPal payment details as i can also pay into your Paypal acct.
I've contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct.
Await your reply
Scam Email
| Asef (Quakers Hill, New South Wales, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2017-10-06 06:56:04 |
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Message from sean:
Hello, do you still have the vehicle for sale? what's your lowest price, reply to me on my email address (seancarterbill@gmail.com)
When I responded with my offer, I got an email back within minutes:
Thanks for getting back,i'm pleased with the price and the condition as described on the advert,I work on a remote mine site, Energy Resources of Australia Ltd (ERA) Darwin NT.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility,Does it have any history I should be aware of and why are you selling?
Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your BSB,Acct name & Number so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your PayPal payment details as i can also pay into your Paypal acct.
I've contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct.
Something didn't feel right, so I tried googling the name. I'm glad I did, since that brought me to this page - with a story of an identical scam attempt by the guy. Phew! :D
Scam Email
| Snowy (Sydney, New South Wales, Australia) Added the following extra information on :2017-03-30 07:37:22 |
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I had a car om Gumtree for sale. Txt me with his EOI. First email;
Thanks for getting back,i'm pleased with the price and the condition as described on the advert,I work on a remote mine site, Energy Resources of Australia Ltd (ERA) Darwin NT.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility,Does it have any history I should be aware of and why are you selling?
Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your BSB,Acct name & Number so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your PayPal payment details as i can also pay into your Paypal acct.
I've contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct.
Await your reply
Second;
I was just about to pay when i had this problem with the pick up, my pick up agent says i will need to pay for the pick up before they can schedule a pick up time, they charged me $950 for pick up and delivery and payments for pick up made through them is made to their corporate international headquarters in the China and the payments is made through western union money transfer, i will add the $950 to the money i will send as soon as i have made the payments,i will need you to help me send the money to my pick up agent HQ in the China through western union money transfer, this can be done from any post office,there is always western union money transfer section in most post offices,i would have done it myself but as i am at sea and didnt bring my credit card aboard,.I will appreciate your help here and thanks for your understanding
Third;
I have just completed the payment and i expected Paypal to have notified you to this effect.check your mail folders(inbox,spam and junk mail) i sent $14,388 in all.i added $1,050 but $950 will be sent to my agent in China through western union at post office,the extra $100 is to cover the western union fee. Paypal said they will not release the fund until you email them the western union details for verification,and also to enable my pick up agent to come for pick up and inspection.Here is the agent's details where the money will be sent.
Name: YU SHENG
Address: 23 First world plaza,
Hong Li Road,
Tian District,
Shenzhen China.
Please get the necessary details sent to Paypal (Money Transfer Control Number)MTCN and senders name and address used to send the $950 so that they can release the whole fund into your account.Please get back to me once done.
The red flag was the Western Union, plus the cars in south east Queensland, and figured $950 from here to there, no go.
Lots of emails later, and the wife calling Paypal, plus googlng his name, led me to this site, Many Many thanks guys, awesome site.
Name and shame this apparent person.
Cheers Peter